Lomsdal-Visten sommerstid med tog

[ostr]

Må ha oversett deler av et par poster her nå, beklager. Turkart Helgeland var jo en veldig fin side med mengder av nyttig informasjon. Svært behjelpelig med ruteforslag, betyr jo at disse rutene er mulige å gå. Men hvordan var det med kart, holder det med det ene over Vistfjellan i Norge-serien? Finnes dette turkartet eventuelt i papirversjon?

[felix haug]

var på en ukes tur i Lomsdal visten august 2014. jeg tok tog til trofors og gikk derfra til mosjøen. lå to dager i koie og en i en gamme. dette var en utfordrende tur men med en uke ble det en fin avslutning på ferien. legger ved Ca kart over løypa jeg valgte.

 

[ostr]

var på en ukes tur i Lomsdal visten august 2014. jeg tok tog til trofors og gikk derfra til mosjøen. lå to dager i koie og en i en gamme. dette var en utfordrende tur men med en uke ble det en fin avslutning på ferien. legger ved Ca kart over løypa jeg valgte.

 

Herlig, hvordan var det du kom deg opp fra Litlskardvatnet? Ser ut til at du fulgte ryggen i midten av Litlskardet, stemmer dette?

[felix haug]

Herlig, hvordan var det du kom deg opp fra Litlskardvatnet? Ser ut til at du fulgte ryggen i midten av Litlskardet, stemmer dette?

 

 

Ja det stemmer, fulgt Litlskardaksla opp til Dåaranjuenie, fungerte greit, kan si det var litt bratt opp der, i tilleg kan det være litt problematisk å krysse velfjordskardelva dersom det har regnet. elvene stiger raskt i lomsdal visten. legger ved ca løypa jeg valgte i dette området.

 

[Kjell Iver]

 legger ved ca løypa jeg valgte i dette området.

 

Det var litt spesiell trase du valgte der. Det er en fordel i dette området - å finne sin egen vei.

I fare for å pushe min egen gamle hjemmeside for mye her - så ligger det noen bilder fra Vegskardtinden her. bildene er tatt 4 Juli - de viser også hvor mye snø som kan liogge her første uken i Juli. Kjembekkvatnet er islagt enda..

 

http://kjiver.no/vegskardtinden.htm

[Larsdx]

Er det lurt å gå ned i skogen og ikke over Visttindan? 

[ostr]

Interessant lesning på siden din, Kjell Iver. Mye nyttig veiledning. Marius Nergård Pettersen anslår i boka si at så få som 1-10 personer beveger seg gjennom Henriksdalen i året. Må være en fantastisk følelse å vandre rundt der med de tankene i hodet.

[Stark]

Er nok blitt betydelig flere som beveger seg gjennom Henriksdalen årlig etter at han ga ut boka si. Allikevel fortsatt relativt lite trafikk. 

[ostr]

Er nok blitt betydelig flere som beveger seg gjennom Henriksdalen årlig etter at han ga ut boka si. Allikevel fortsatt relativt lite trafikk. 

Jo, altså, du skal ha litt uflaks om det beveger seg 100 mennesker gjennom der årlig og du møter på noen. 

[Sascha Augsten]

Hi,

 

i would like to join the thread to avoid a second lomsdal-thread for my questions. Furthermore i have to apologise posting in english, because i speak no norwegian, hope, both will be o.k.

 

Me and my wife ( we are from berlin, germany) did some hiking trips in northern norway the last years and now chose Lomsdal-Visten as our "summer projekt" (middle to end of juli) this year. During collecting information and studiing some norwegian travel reports ( or whatever google translater had left from them ), we decided the route from Tosbotn to Breivatnet, then crossing south of Lausvjellet to Titingsdalen, go further in a little loop via Strompdalen to Lomsdalen , and then continue over the mountains (via Henriksdalen and the Visttindan-Area),  to storvatnet and north-east eiterafjellet. Thats the plan.

 

I think, we have a picture of the area (demanding rough grounds, no marked ways, only a few stalkers paths....), but we are used in navigation and hiking,anyway have a lot of questions left, so it would be fine, if somebody could add some information to our plans.

 

1. There are a few rivers to cross which could be difficult to impossible in spate conditions, but there are some bridges, we have to go over breivasselva and Lomsdalselva in lomsdalen. Are the briges o.k. or do you know something about damage over the winter ? maybe i should ask later in the year because the snow just starts melting?

 

2. An important question about the glaciers in the Visttindan-area. Regarding to the map it seems to be easy to pass them on the sides , nevertheless i will create a gps-track in case of emergency. Do you know something about the conditions of the glacier ? Are there crevasses ?

 

3. Then a question about the tent. We have a HB Kaitum 3 (which has stronger poles than usual, because we had to upgrade after a infernal thunder storm to 11mm like the black label tents from HB are eqipped ), but a HB Staika too ( a dome tent). What would you prefer ? i am not sure, if we will find good ground to fix the Kaitum (tunnel tent) storm proof, especially in the mountains.

 

4. The last problem seems to be the exit in eiteradalen (north-east from storvatnet), because there is no public transport and we will have to hitchhike to E6 and thebn to trofors or so. Maybe the local tourist information will provide us with information about other possibilities. Do you think, we could organise any kind of a transport in advance, maybe a taxi or so ?

 

5. Feel free to add comments about the route or other information.

 

Best regards

Sascha

[ostr]

4) http://tema.webatlas.no/turkarthelgeland

Go in there and mark "stier" (paths) and possibly hytter (cabins). Here you will find plenty of possibly routes. One of these shows the old way down from Stavvassdalen in red. If you click this, a box comes up. If you click "Mer informasjon", you will get quite good information about the route (in norwegian).

 

https://plus.google.com/100265123889218570865/about?gl=no&hl=no

 

This should be a number for a guy driving taxi up there.

 

I can't help you with anything else basicly in lack of knowledge (have yet not been in the area and are not familiar with the tents). I guess you can pick the tent you prefer. However, the ascension from Eiterådalen to Henriksdalen has been described as rather steep and I would therefore consider to turn the route around. I would prefer to climb steep hills up instead of down.

 

At last I would say that I am impressed that two foreigns manage to sniff out both this forum, but also Lomsdal-Visten. I guess that shows dedication and genuin interest considering great nature impressions.

 

This information is already covered early in the thread, but here you have it in english

Endret 27. mai 2015 av ostr

[Kjell Iver]

@Sascha Augsten the route you have planned there is a very nice one. I think it will be a good day when you are leaving the powerplants in the construction area in Tosbotn!

I like the idea of trekking through Tettingsdalen also - but I would suggest you go between the upper Breivatnan and then through Lappskardet and into Tettingsdalen and then down to Børja - and then back - through Sæterdalen - Strompdalen - Lomsdalen.

There is nice bridges below Breivassfossen - before you enter Lomsdalen. Theres also now a good bridge after Lomsdalen - before you enter Henriksdalen.

I would suggest you leave the National park in Stavassdalen. There you can hike to Trofors..

I now a german couple that is trekking there every year - if you like I can see if I find their e-mail adress?

[Larsdx]

@Kjell Iver Så du spørsmålet mitt? Bør man gå over Visttindan eller rundt ned i dalen? 

[Kjell Iver]

@Larsdx Hvis målet er å gå fra Visten til Lomsdalen (?) så er det ganske krevende terreng å gå i - om man går via Visttindan.  

Vistfjellet har veldig mye sprekker - så det er alltid mye att og fram når man skal gå det på tvers - og (om du ser i kartet) så må man over Storvassfjellet for å kunne passere - samt at man må passere rett forbi Visttindan (man kan like gjerne ta topptur samtidig).

Helt grovt - skisserer en rute - og høydeprofil på en slik vandring

Jeg har gått denne strekningen to ganger og egentlig aldri gått nedi dalen annet enn å ha gått Eiterådalen på langs på vei og ellers vært litt på småturer nedi skogen der - samt sjøbergmarsjen selvsagt.

Det er verdt å merke seg den trasee'n for Sjøbergmarsjen - disse rødmerkene er ganske gjenkjennelige oppå der

[Larsdx]

Det ser jo ut som en fin og utfordrende tur. Hvor lang tid brukte du @Kjell Iver ? Er det mulig å slå leir ved det lille tjernet mellom Storvassfjellet og Vistfjellan? 

[Kjell Iver]

Det ser jo ut som en fin og utfordrende tur. Hvor lang tid brukte du @Kjell Iver ? Er det mulig å slå leir ved det lille tjernet mellom Storvassfjellet og Vistfjellan? 

Jeg husker de teltplassene jeg hadde. Ene gangen under Vistmannen - og gikk da til Fjellgården via det som den gangen var kallt Norges Geografiske midtpunkt.

 

Den andre gangen teltet jeg i Henriksdalen og gikk til samme sted men da via Sæterskardet (det er j... bratt ned der). På den siden kan du hvor vi gikk. 

 

Om jeg skulle teltet oppå fjellet her ville jeg vurdert å telte ved Grunnvatnet - som er en lett gåtur fra fjorden (passeres når man går Sjøbergmarsjen)

[TL]

 

I think, we have a picture of the area (demanding rough grounds, no marked ways, only a few stalkers paths....), but we are used in navigation and hiking,anyway have a lot of questions left, so it would be fine, if somebody could add some information to our plans.

 

 

Yes, the terrain is quite rough, but you seem to know. However, this remote part of Norway is absolutely uniqe and very little known - even among the northerners. In my opinion, the hardest part is the ascent from Tosbotn at sea level. But once that is done, the landscape will slowly appear in all its beauty.

 

I'll try to answer some of your questions:

 

1) Lomselva river is possible to wade (under normal weather conditions) where the river is at its broadest (next to a private cabin). But I have not done this maneuvre myself - only read about this in trip reports. The bridge over Grunnvasselva river looked like this in 2012.

 

2) It's not really glaciers, only old snow. Not a problem at all to traverse. But late at summer and in autumn this snow can be uncomfortably hard. Normally not a problem in july, when the snow layer is a bit softer.

 

3) Equipment? Sorry, I'm not the right guy to ask

 

4) If I understand you right here, you will walk out of the national park along the Skjørlægda river? It's an ok path, but a bit marshy in the upper areas of this valley. My suggestion is to order a taxi from the taxi central in Mosjøen (before you even begin your trip) to "Sandvikbakken in Eiterådalen" - the place where the path begins / ends. An alternative is to head for Stavassdalen (an old, but abandoned farm, which played a significant role during WW2, i.e. illegal weapon transport from the coast to the interrior Norway). From this place it's an 11 km walk along a primitive road to Trofors railway station. Maybe a bit boring, but logistcally it might make sense.

 

Hope this was meaningful.

 

Best regards.

[TL]

Hvis dere velger å gå den ruta som Kjell Iver lanserte nå sist, så kan jeg anbefale en tur innom (eller rettere sagt - nedenom) den svært enkle, men sjarmerende Telegrafhytta (ikke hytte i sørnorsk forstand, men ei bu, koie). Foreslo i sin tid dette bortgjemte krypinnet for den vordende forfatteren Marius Nergård Pettersen, som noe seinere ga ut boka Lomsdal-Visten - det gjemte landets villmark, og jaggu hadde han ikke lagt turen innom (se side 150 i nevnte bok).

 

 

[Sascha Augsten]

At last I would say that I am impressed that two foreigns manage to sniff out both this forum, but also Lomsdal-Visten. I guess that shows dedication and genuin interest considering great nature impressions.

ostr, thank you for the helpful information and the nice words. Indeed we invest a lot oft time in research for our hiking-trips, hopefully find beautyfull not overcrowded nature.

I like the idea of trekking through Tettingsdalen also - but I would suggest you go between the upper Breivatnan and then through Lappskardet and into Tettingsdalen and then down to Børja - and then back - through Sæterdalen - Strompdalen - Lomsdalen...

...I would suggest you leave the National park in Stavassdalen. There you can hike to Trofors..

I now a german couple that is trekking there every year - if you like I can see if I find their e-mail adress?

Kjell Iver, thx a lot. The way to Tettingsdalen ist exactly what i had in mind to walk - via Lappskardet. I think i have seen on your nice homepage that you did this section once "vice versa" from Tettingsdalen to Breivatn. Regarding the exit, you mean, go to Visttindan and then head east and then the more flatter section (there a 2 summit on the map with 472 and 437 where a path starts to Brynhilddalen and then go further to Stavvasdalen ? Seems to be a nice end of the trip, after the mountains to have a little valley ( a lot of wetland of course, but we have Lundhags ). WE have a lot of Time ( 11 days for Hiking, i think, that is enough. ) The mail adress would be fine, i will send you my mail in a pm, so feel free to give it to the Couplet

2) It's not really glaciers, only old snow. Not a problem at all to traverse. But late at summer and in autumn this snow can be uncomfortably hard. Normally not a problem in july, when the snow layer is a bit softer.

An alternative is to head for Stavassdalen (an old, but abandoned farm, which played a significant role during WW2, i.e. illegal weapon transport from the coast to the interrior Norway). From this place it's an 11 km walk along a primitive road to Trofors railway station. Maybe a bit boring, but logistcally it might make sense.

Hope this was meaningful.

Best regards.

TL, this was meaningful indeed and especially the info about the glacier and the exit. I think, you have a similar route in mind as KI did ?

I see you are from Bodo. This was the Start of our nice trip in Saltfjellet last (hot ) Summer. You may find our travelreport here: (in German but lot of Photos )

https://www.outdoorseiten.net/forum/showthread.php/82330-NO-Von-%C3%85seli-nach-Dunderland-2014-%28Saltfjellet-Svartisen%29?p=1335985&viewfull=1#post1335985

I promise, that i will add a little travelreport to Fjellforum in english after we return from Lomsdal-visten because the users here are very helpfull.

Last but not least another question about the bus from Mosjøen to Tosbotn: I understand, we have to chance the bus but i read something that we will need to call the other bus ? I think, the translation from google is not allways pricisely.

best regards

Sascha